Discussion in 'Site Surveys' started by jayhawk, Jan 12, 2008.
pretty straight forward here, yes or no... We'll run with the majority.
a resounding NO!
whats the timeframe for this poll till feb 1st?
is there a "Maybe" option?
How about a little discussion on this... not just a no and that's it... What's your reasoning? Why are you so against it?
Well everyone that wants it obviously will vote 'Yes' and people like me, are unaffected and don't care. So donate me some credits and I'll vote for whatever you want
I think it should be custom labels only cuz who would want a scanned label that just has the title on it. Slater doesn't want it because hes afraid he will have to QA them
this has been a hot topic for a while, and we have voted and discussed it in the mods section, over and over again, and my vote or opinion was NO because I don't think the site needs them, and there are many reasons why I think that
HOWEVER "I" suggested posting a poll, and going to the masses to decide on the outcome...
that way it would not just be a " no
by the way, the mods section was:
(well all the mods who voted anyways)
so It looks like its up to the users here..
so everyone, make your vote count, because you don't want another 4 years do you??? :lol:
**that's a BUSH joke.. (or Dalton McGuinty for us Canadians, well the ones in Ontario anyways)
I think rickT is asking you WHY you don't want labels
honestly, I think it cheapens a sites status, it makes us seem more like a site for bootleggers, and we have never had labels before, and i can understand the "traffic" that labels will bring, but it will also bring attention to the site , and make the site seem more bootlegger friendly (in my opinion) **to the Studios
plus we all remember that DVDCOVERART had to close down because of a lawsuit from Disney, or lucasfilm or whomever,
and i'm sure the movie studios know of our existence
however, with us being only a "replacement" cover site, and an alternative for some of the crappy studio "cut and paste" jobs on covers...
the studios don't see us as a threat because , take me for example, i own over 2,500 dvd's (including 7 disc tv show box sets) and "me" personally I do not own even "1" copied dvd...
and the whole reason i EVER did a search for "dvd covers" was because way back in like 2002-2003 when the back to the future dvd boxset came out, i only owned a small amount of dvd's and had them in one of those metal dvd holder shelves (the ones that only hold single width cases)
and i wanted my back to the future dvd's in single cases
so after finding dvdcoverart, i found that not only did they have replacement for my BTTF set in single width, BUT they also had many replacements for my "snapper cases" and better custom covers for many of my other movies...
so that's why i became interested in this hobby
then i started to collect TV Series on DVD and HATED the many varying sizes that season sets came in, so again i went to dvd coversites to get single width covers to put my 4 disc, 5 disc and 6 disc season sets in...
thats why i'm for "replacement covers "Personally"
and i think replacement "labels" for discs , seem more like something a person who burns a movie or show or whatever would need, for their blank discs, and I don't know how much attention having such things on the site would make the studios notice...
**which brings me to another topic, that many sites USED to enforce, most dvd coversites used to enforce the "it has to be out of theatres and on dvd already" (or 1 week before its dvd release,) for covers to be posted on the site...
but many sites dropped that when crappy cover sites(we know the ones LOL) had covers months before the movie was even in theatres!!
now everybody can do what they want in the privacy of their own homes, (burn movies, watch porn, make porn LOL etc)
but me myself, i come for the covers and see labels as a "lesser form" of dvd related material, which honestly seem to have only "1" purpose...
now I am not a prude by any means (as i own many backed-up playstation games) but when it comes to movies i only own the real thing...
and lets be honest, we have all seen bootlegged movies is shops or flea markets or even on the street, But 9 time out of 10 they don't come with a custom cover, just a "custom or scanned label attached to them...
thats my reasoning, and personal opinion on this matter, you can agree with me, be totally against me, or ignore me...
thats my opinion.
I agree with that... but cmon, who are we kidding lol
I just don't want this site to go the way that so many sites have gone resently :
and studios have lots of lawyers LOL
oh and to back-up my claim that i own tons of dvd's heres a picture of the shelving units i had to build (notice than not all my tv season sets are in single width yet, as i can't find many of those sets converted yet LOL)
and the blank "black" cases are for dvd's and sets that i haven't printed the covers out for yet (ink is expensive, and shannons work changed printers so i may have to go to kwiky-kopy LOL
Well, labels arent why that certain site has gone **Poof!**
They dont seem to be effecting HiRes, CM, CC, or 9covers in any adverse way.
They will certainly increase membership and traffic to our site.
Labels will make us a "one stop shop" for all your custom dvd needs. Existing members will no longer have to go elsewhere to find labels. (stole this one from RickT. )
and while I understand Darth's point, I myself use labels for my backups. Mostly because I want them to look good but also because thats the only way my 2 year old can identify them. By the way, in the last 2 weeks she has destroyed copies of: The Sandlot, Finding Nemo, Wizard of Oz and A Christmas Story. And since I made these so long ago I now have to go elsewhere to find the labels.
I think its time. Just my 2 cents.
DS, RTC still "enforces" that policy. And I actually agree with most all of what you said, the difference being I personally feel if you're going to burn a crappy ass quality of a movie onto disc, you may as well just use a damn Sharpie
Edit: After reading dono's post... yeah they can have some benefits, but they hold the same stigma for a site ("we cater to bootleggers, Disney come get us"). I don't know, I voted no simply because I think it's a bad idea for the site and it's welfare, but can see both sides of the legitimate reasons for labels. So I guess I'm on the fence...
WOW DS. Impressive looking library. Could I get the directions on how to build those shlves and materials used. Do you use DVDProfiler to keep track of you collection?
I agree with DarthSlater,
I too think it cheapens a site, making it seem more bootlegger friendly. I too own over 2,500 dvd's and enjoy adding the creativity that the artist brings to this and other cover sites.
The reason I started making covers was I had received the Godfather Collection way back, as a gift and one of the hubs was broken. I was unable to get a replacement case when I had stumbled on DVDCOVERART.COM.
Now I make covers to save some space on the wall so that my wife does not throw me out. I love spanning spines, which add to the presentation of my collection, so that's why I became interested in this hobby. Although I’m not a great cover artist I have contributed a couple that I have made.
Therefore, I vote NO !
We will leave it up for a few days--I think the majority of users that want them, ignore the forums anyway. I may send out an email asking for a vote
Its a yes from me, please carry on with labels.
The major problem with labels that i see is your going to get 10-15 labels per movie or maybe even more, so people can get credits! and not to mention the mods work is going to atleast double checking all those labels. I voted NO, cause I dont use them and there are enough sites that have more then anyone would ever need !